No More Anti Video Game BS

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Well.. Reading gamepolitics.com lately has not gotten me much to work with, story wise. But this article has me scratching my head... Basically the Deputy UK prime minister is saying GTA (and probably games like that) turn people into addicts who live in their bedroom or living room and don't talk to people, becoming "hermetically sealed"..... This is the last time we need more of this BS! You know why?

Whether Nick Clegg knows it or not, he is helping to perpetuate the stereotype that all gamers are sociopaths. Sociopaths that only play violent games, aren't social, don't talk to anyone, and just play all day, isolated from others. Stuff like this re enforces the nonsense that gamers are sociopaths, cretins, low lifes, etc. I know most gamers are NOT sociopaths. The ones that do do not make a majority. Saying all gamers live in their bedroom reminds people of Adam Lanza, who was reported by the Tabloids to have lived in his basement. To their mind now, Clegg is making gamers look like criminals. It's pathetic and it has to stop. I play only 2 hours of Video games per day, I am a social person. I don't need nonsense like this to be spread. It's bad for all of us... The more people stereotype us as living in isolation, or any stereotype really, the worse it will get..

What really gets me is how Nick Clegg decides to complain about how he can't limit gamers gaming type through any law or edict near the bottom. Because people like him love to regulate us as much s possible, but since the unfortunate fact that his Country is a Free Country, he unfortunately cannot do that. Anyone like this should not be in office. Who elected him? People who don't like violent games? It makes me wonder. Do we really have world leaders complaining about Freedoms that get in the way of controlling people because they view those people all as sociopaths and school shooters?

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While reading gamepolitics.com, I came across the below article, talking about how the Whitehouse is not considering attacking the industry (thankfully) for the Navy Yard Shooting. So I started reading the comments, and came across one commenter who kept on spewing nonsense about violent games over and over again, and after reading his crap again I realized something. He is really not who he appears to be, in fact he is actually an anti-gaming crusader using a fake name. I won't reveal his probable real identity but gamers who know who he sounds like know how that person behaves. Here are a few quotes from him:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/congress-video-game-violence-navy-yard-97131.html#ixzz2fZo0xKpg

"Sorry to bust your bubble but your wrong. In Paducah Kentucky, the 14 year old shooter had never fired a gun before his murder spree, except for once the day before. He played violent video games where it showed him how to aim a gun. He shot his victims with such accuracy that the only explanation is the video games taught him how to shoot so well. Look it up for your self. Not all kids that play these games end up killers, but all these killers played these violent games!"

This is one of the biggest BS claims going out there right now. That Micheal Carneal learned how to aim just from Playing Doom. There are tons of problems with this. First of all, doom at the time lacked vertical aiming. A random number generator determined how high your bullet went. You have no control over how high you shoot at all. Explain how carneal hit 3 of his targets in the head then? He couldn't have. He fired 8 individual shots with semiautomatic pistols that don't fire multiple rounds when you hold the trigger down, and hit 8 kids in the head or chest. Doom trains you to hold down the mouse button down, your gun in the game will fire multiple times. All of the guns do. Unlike anything but full auto guns in real life. After killing all the enemies in the current room you let go and rinse and repeat in the next room, etc. If Carneal trained on Doom, he would fire one round while holding down the real guns trigger and no more shots would fire, and would not be able to hit all 8 targets at all.

Another thing is that this poster claims is that lots of mass shooters played violent games. Only 4 have. Harris/Klebold, The Norway Killer, and the Navy Yard shooter. 1 News paper tried to claim Cho (V-Tech Killer) played Half-life (meaning counterstrike I think), but the neighbors of Cho said they never saw him obsess over "violent" games. Adam lanza was quoted by some plumber in a Tabloid to have played call of duty because "people who play call of duty know about realistic models of tanks and weapons from ww1-ww2" because of the posters showing Weapons and Tanks From WW1-WW2. No other proof given. To me that's proof he Did NOT played COD. James Holmes played Some RPG's (oblivion, etc), all Sword fighting games, combat wise. He killed people, with a gun. That doesn't work. The norway shooter said he used COD to train for the massacre. That's it. One other shooter said he played "Guitar Hero". Is that the morons definition of a "violent game" now? I guess it's because of the Heavy Metal and it's fake Satanic cult who molests kids who happen to be part of every Metal band and metal Fan worldwide... Go Figure.

"Look up the work by Col Dave Grossman. He trains our military on how to kill people. He knows what he is talking about.

"Grossman argues that the techniques used by armies to train soldiers to kill are mirrored in certain types of video games. The conclusion he draws is that playing violent video games, particularly light gun shooters of the first-person shooter-variety
(where the player holds a weapon-like game controller), train children
in the use of weapons and, more importantly, harden them emotionally to
the task of murder by simulating the killing of hundreds or thousands of
opponents in a single typical video game. Grossman uses blunt language
that draws the ire of gamers—during the heights of video game controversy,
he was interviewed on the content of his books, and repeatedly used the
term "murder simulator" to describe first-person shooter games."
As for your assertion that this has been tested... nice try. You are wrong!"

Col Grossman was a shrink from the Military. He had NOTHING to do with training people to kill. Boot Camp does. The whole idea that violent games are used to break down the inhibition to kill is debunked by this blog, not written by some "gamer druggie", but a person who actually served in the military. I quote his lengthy debunking below:

"Let me give you some background. I am coming out of a four-year stint in the United States Marine Corps. I spent six months in Afghanistan and two months in Iraq (crossing the Line of Departure a mere 72 hours after the word was given by the President).

While not in a combat unit, every Marine's primary job is basic rifleman. We are all considered trained enough to put steel on target when the lawful order is given.

Video games are poor training tools. For anything, really. I think the last games I learned from were Sticky Bear Math and Number Munchers.

I'm not aware of any military unit that uses video games to break down the inhibition to kill.

In fact, this breakdown really only occurs in one place: Boot camp.

Boot camp doesn't even specifically concentrate on the inhibition to kill. Rather, they follow the CIA training manual for brainwashing almost point by point, in order to instill in recruits 'instant and willing obedience to lawful orders' - that is what they do. The assumption, of course, is that these orders may be to kill; But they could be to drag a wounded child to safety, or set up a bunker in 100 degree weather, or pull night watch after being up for a 36-hour convoy.

The inhibition to kill can only be broken down by, wait for it . . . killing.

When we were parked on the outskirts of Fallujah and watched as night fell and the Iraqis came out onto the streets, even though our orders were much more liberal than the current Rules of Engagement, there was still hesitation. And this after our convoy had turned around after taking fire at the front.

When we got ambushed, it was actually unfortunate that my extensive game-playing hadn't prepared me at all for the sheer confusion, excitement, fear and horror of those moments.

If you think America's Army is anything but a half-decent game and a lame recruitment tool, you've never run an obstacle course, or been 'quarterdecked' by a DI.

If you think Halo can help you learn how to shoot, you've never tried to get ten in the black from 500 yards with the piece-of-shit M16A2, with your elbows getting ground by sand trapped in your cammies and the sun causing sweat on your forehead which drips into your eyes."

One more quote by the anti-gaming activist pretending to be a politico.com poster with a fake name:

"Trust me I hunt, competitive target shoot and have a concealed pistol permit my self. Just look at my profile pic. It's of the late great Col. Carlos Hathcock. I also play these same video games. I never blamed guns as the problem and never said all people that play these games are going to be killers. What I am saying is when you add these games without parental supervision, mentally unstable kids, etc... your going to get a few killers in the outcome."

The fact that the same anti-gaming activist has called gamers "Junior" like this guy (read the comments he has said), and has berated gamers in emails, just like this person proves they are the same person. They are virtually Identical. There is no way this guy plays violent games. If he did, he would know the BS he spreads is NOT TRUE...

I have suspected for years that anti-gaming activists have been spreading nonsense like the Hack Psychologists claims under fake names, after I read several posts by odd people quoting his claim. Now I know the truth.... It IS happening. It's quite disturbing. Why the hell groups like this allow people like this do do this kind of crap is beyond me.

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It seems this country has to keep spewing nonsense over and over again about a non-existent link between video games and real life violence... They wait till everyone is not thinking about it and use crap like this to attempt to start another video games moral panic. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.... But it's fucking stupid and it must stop...

A murder in Australia, has been associated with violent games.. The police have supposedly searched the killers twitter posts to find out he played call of duty... Like call of duty may have impacted the killers decision to shoot 3 people for the sheer fun factor of it... Well.. When you go to the shoutbox on gamepolitics.com (where I found the article), you get an article linked in it which links to another article by an Australian News site mentioning gangs... Gangs aren't even mentioned in the fox article linked in the shoutbox. It seems Faux news has no problem with leaving out information that proves games had nothing to do with the killings when they want to pin games as the SOLE REASON... For moral panic reasons!!!!

To make things worse, there is a video in the article which part of the Faux news "medical team" rambles on about his completely bogus theory that every big mass killer since 1999 is addicted to violent games... That's mentioned in the first article I linked... This idea is preposterous, there is no proof to back it up, whatsoever. Sure Klebold and Harris among others played violent games. But the proof for V-TECH, and others is a media Fabrication coming from newspapers like this. Lanza's call of duty articles all cited one article by an english tabloid which failed to even prove he played call of duty and used that as proof that he did! The one person linking V-TECH to Counterstrike said an article which used HIS evidence was the proof. He basically cited himself saying that there was a link when there wasn't. In fact there is NO evidence to suggest the following people besides Harris and Klebold and Lanza were addicted to violent games...

(Eric Harris, Dylan Khebold, Seung Hui Cho, Jared Loughner, Anders Brevik, James Holmes, the eight-year-old who accidently shot his grandmother recently and the three teens who murdered an Australian tourist too)

Anders brejik was a TERRORIST who mentioned video games make great training tools. There has been no evidence to suggest he was addicted, same for James Holmes, or the rest of the list as well. None but Harris and Klebold have ANY link to video game addiction, it's bullshit.Anders played World of Warcraft, far from your average Violent Game. James Holmes played Guitar Hero. Is that their latest "Violent" game to attack now? Really... This is stupid....

To make things worse, the medical "Expert" claims that the medical industry has found "proof" that there is a link between real life violence and video games, and has gone out to say that link exists, even though NO study has found a causation link between violent video game exposure and real life violence. The ones that attempt to find a link between violent games and aggression are extremely flawed and biased... My YouTube censoring life radio show goes into the studies a lot more... This "trusted source" then went on claiming that violent games were drugs and we need warning labels put on them, like that's gonna do anything...

This pisses me off. The last thing we need is a "trusted source" (who isn't) starting a moral panic on video game violence after it has cooled off!!! This kind of stuff is what was rampant on news stations after columbine and the moral panic skyrocketed after that... It's frankly, disgusting....

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Ok... This is OLD news,,, From February 2013, But after Mentioning the Hypothetical conspiracy to ban violent games in this country, an old story popped in my head. In the article below, it's said that a huge 7 foot by 4 foot spreadsheet, meticulously detailing tons of different school/mass shootings, going all the way down to what weapons were used, and other little tiny details... Then it goes on to say the following horrible quotes that all link Adam Lanza to Violent Games and "deranged gamers".

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lupica-lanza-plotted-massacre-years-article-1.1291408

" "According to the veteran, Stebbins said the State Police believe Lanza saw the massacre in terms of a video game. It has previously been reported that investigators found "thousands of dollars worth" of violent games in his house.
"They don't believe this was just a spreadsheet," the longtime cop said. "They believe it was a score sheet," and that it was "the work of a video gamer." "

"It's why he didn't want to be killed by law enforcement," said the veteran to the Daily News. "In the code of a gamer, even a deranged gamer like this little bastard, if somebody else kills you, they get your points. They believe that's why he killed himself."

Well you can see where this is going....

Number 1, there is no "Code of the gamer" that says it's preferable to KILL yourself in a game to save your points.... Almost No violent games HAVE points anymore, some do, but NONE that I know of take your points away if you get killed by the opposition, in Multi player, which can only what this is describing, because the whole game ends if you die in single player 99% of the time, and in cases where it doesn't (rare), I can't remember ones where dying made you loose points and the opposition got yours.

Number 2, this whole score sheet thing sounds fake, like the hoaxes I have debunked that are publicized in the Media to make it look like the Shooter was influenced by violent games, things like the "Doom Will become reality Hoax" (debunked here), and the 3 news articles saying a modified version of doom was found on Eric Harris's site with Impossible to do features in 1999 (debunked here). To make things worse, this whole article mentioned above has been Refuted by the REAL police, making it obvious that the quote about the sick gamer and the score sheet are NOT VALID OR REAL, at all.... If the Police claim this score sheet isn't real, then....

Here is an interesting quote from a comments section of an article quoting the original New York Times Article.... Found Here..

"An article I read said this spreadsheet was printed 9 font, on print paper 9 feet long (one article) 7 feet long (another article) and 4 feet wide (both articles). Printers that can do that are usually used for blueprints and drawings. They are very very expensive...sometimes as much as a new sports car...which is why they are rented and usually not bought. The paper goes in the printer in huge rolls and the size is trimmed by the printer, based on document size. Hardly the kind of printer most folks have access to, and I don't see him asking Kinko's to print this out for him. My guess would be that as more people realize that, the size of the print paper will be omitted from future articles. Just sayin...."

Here's the problem. Using the 9 font thing, I found that for the 500 names mentioned in the article
to fit on the 7 foot by 4 foot spreadsheet, the font has to be smaller than 9. Since the font is not mentioned as anything but the 9 font (unlike the dimensions, which vary article to article, suspicious...), we can assume that with a 9 font, based on my monitor size, that 1 foot = 54
rows long, or 18 columns wide. If you multiply 54 by 7 to get the total names listed in this font
size the names come out to 378. So It's IMPOSSIBLE to fit 500 names on this spreadsheet
this way!!! Now try columns. It is even less, 126 or so. IMPOSSIBLE. Add the police refuting this and the variation of size in articles and you get a NEWSPAPER HOAX designed to make it look like gamers are the cause of the school shooting. If you use the 9 foot value, it STILL isn't enough for 500 names to fit on the spreadsheet!!!! Even if Lanza Doubled them up, it would make the data
bigger and the size would be off, so it doesn't matter. It's STILL A hoax... I can't believe no one in the gaming community attacked the Newspaper for this... Seriously!!!

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So after going to gamepolitics.com last night, I looked in the legislation tab to see if any state had drafted Anti-Violent Game Legislation. Surprisingly, My own state of Massachusetts, was among those states, that drafted draconian anti-video game bills within the last 6 years. Back in 2007, HB 1423 was drafted, it would apparently "restrict violent games to minors", but that's not all... No No... That's not all..

The Bill is so ridiculously draconian that is scares me just as much as the Bill that California Drafted that got Defeated for Unconstitutionality in Brown VS EMA. Like that bill, this one uses the greatly subjective obscenity clause to determine what games would be restricted.... Basically, if the game is offensive to the public, and the judges of the content find it lacks scientific, educational, or literary value, it would be restricted. The problem is if a game is so offensive that it offends the Judges (it seems any violent game with gore would do this, hell even guns in a game offended a co-worker years ago, Doom none the less), they would be so offended that they would say it lacks those values anyway, and therefore would use it against the game and then restrict it to minors.

The real issue is not this but the fact that it uses the restrict word in the wrong way, or in an unclear way. Restrict means to " to confine or keep within certain often specified limits or selected bounds" according to an online dictionary, so if you use this definition, the bill makes it illegal to sell games to adults now.... Even worse, the bill fails to even mention the punishments, who will judge the games, punishment (if any) for false judgement based on faked evidence or incorrect evidence or abuse of the judging process. Even if these issues are my imagination, it still uses a subjective system to determine what games are restricted and what ones aren't. How would the stores know which ones not to sell.... Like Brown VS EMA, they might end up taking all games off the shelves to prevent losses or lawsuits coming from violations of the law. So therefore this bill would create an effective ban because since stores don't know what games get restricted till to late, they then end up having to take ALL violent games off the shelves to prevent damages, especially if the bill is abused..

Text of the Bill in question for people wanting to read it In case it gets deleted later for any reason. (a lot of the stuff like this gets deleted suddenly, as of late anyway, such as the Brown vs EMA Amicus Brief, etc)

As of now the Bill is in the House Committee being stalled, but who knows for how long? This could come to bite my state and my freedom of choices in the Ass later. I am an Adult! I have the right to choose WHAT GAMES I Buy. I don't want this bill to backfire and make retailers get rid of violent games in fear like it could. And since I use online retailers mostly now, who knows how it will effect online retailers in MA, or the gaming industry here. This could be, in theory, Disastrous for gaming in my state.....

This is MY STATE we are talking about here... We don't do shit like this, uber save the children conservative nonsense here. Not till one of the hack psychologists crazy unproven theories invaded the minds of people like our Mayor, did this nonsense start, with the Banning of GTA ads on subway systems that don't have kids in them anyway (from my experience, their too dangerous for kids)... IF our Mayor ends up allowing this to pass, I will fight it tooth and nail with regular emails to ALL the Representatives and Senators in my State.... I won't let this go quietly and with out opportunity. I will start a campaign to get people to write EVERYONE in office in MA to oppose this and hopefully it will flood their Mailboxes so bad that they find it unconstitutional.

As of now, the bill is in committee, and who knows if it will be taken out for a vote anytime soon. But still I urge ALL Gamers in Massachusetts to email the Rep's about this. This is danger waiting to happen for Gaming here... Don't let this pass, gamers, spread the message, email your Rep's, send the message below to them to make them see that this is WRONG!!!

Text to email (please us this, don't write your own)

"As your constituent and as an avid Video Game fan, and also as an anti-censorship person, I oppose HB 1423 due to it's vague use of the phrase "restricting" in it's text, and other issues. I know this is an old bill, but according to gamepolitics.com, it's still being worked on, and hasn't completely died, according to them.It claims to be a bill that will restrict Sales of certain violent video games to adults, but when I didgoogle searches for similar bills in other states, only a few were restrict to adults type bills. Many were ills to restrict violent games to children... Since I oppose any form of Censorship, I immediately looked at the Bill's text, and compared it to others in other states. When looking up the definition of Restrict online, It seems this bill is actually designed to Restrict sales of violent games to adults, as in a ban of violent games to adults only. Since the bill's text is so vague, there is no part that clearly states "stores must not sell games to minors", so which way is it? Banning games from being sold to minors, or to Adults.... Based on other bills, it looks like the writer of such a bill Purposely left it out to abuse it for such a purpose, to make it illegal for stores to even sell games to adults.... Thus killing the video game industry in this state.

Other issues I have with it, are how it uses an incredibly biased Obscenity clause that states that if thegame is lacks scientific, literary, or educational value for minors, it is harmful to minors and can't besold, but since the the people who are deciding this (which it does not state), could simply use theirstandards of what offends them, they can simply say that the game offends them, so therefore it lacks those standards, and ban it to adults or children.... I feel Indecency and obscenity clauses are to vague and subjective to use as a test of what should be restricted, banned or both... It's too easy for someone else to abuse this, and IMHO, that's why the author wrote this bill to get an "effective ban" in MA passed... I just wanted to share my concerns..."

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So.... I've been on Twitter following the Boston Bombing since it first happened on April 15'th. I suspected someone would try to blame it on violent games. A preacher from Worcester did, but that doesn't nearly piss me off as much as this...... Some idiot anti-gamer set up this article DARING to link violent games to an OBVIOUS Terror attack where the perps are Radical Islamic Terrorists, not even gamers and you get a bunch of people trying to link Violent games to the Bombing, Gamers and video game Manufacturers to Terrorists, and worse.... Here is a text link to the comments in question...

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/04/24/should-something-be-done-about-shock-video-games-like-the-boston-marathon-terror-on-the-streets-and-kindergarten-killer/

Notice how all of them IMMEDIATELY assumed the "terror on the streets" game was being sold to kids despite proof that the Industry does not sell violent games to kids...

"To answer your question, Greta, yes. Something should be done about these violent games. They are a form of mind control as they 'train' a brain. A child's brain is not fully developed until his or her early 20s. If they choose to play such games after age 25, then let them choose to do so then. The First Amendment, as I understand it, protects a person's right to speak freely, even assemble publicly, when done in a peaceable manner. Somewhere along the line manufacturers inserted themselves into the First Amendment, and some profiteering attorney supported them. I don't recall there being a statement that anyone has a right to manufacture demoralizing and brain training products and sell them to young persons. Has anyone noticed how lax so many parents today are? The children who run a house? Grandparents are raising their grandchildren because mom or dad don't want to be bothered--and these dear people are tired; they may let things slip because they aren't aware of what the kids are doing, or perhaps they do know, but need some rest, so they allow it. Let these game makers (and abundantly violent TV and film producers) create their games for their own pleasure. They can sit in their lounge chairs and play/view their lives away. We need to make them feel our opinions of their work in their pocketbooks."

This is more BS that claims violent games "train kids" when this blog post completely debunks the claim.. There is also the BS claim that kids are running households. This idiot blames THAT on violent games? There is only ONE thing that can cause THAT... BAD PARENTING... Simple as that... This is a BS excuse to support more BS that shows up later in the article... He also claims that some lawyer and the industry have perverted the 1st amendment/free speech... That's also BS coming from an anti-gamer idiot.. This shit is being used to attack VIOLENT games after the Boston Bombings?

"It's not the game makers,it's the sickos that buy these games and the sicko parents who buy these type of games for their children. If there was no market for these type of disgusting games they would soon stop being mad. Blame society not the game manufacturers."

Again the nonsense claim the game is being sold to kids... It probably isn't even being sold. NOT ONE person went out of their way to even remotely prove these games are FREE online games made
by internet idiots and not games sold to kids!!!! Then this idiot who wrote this quote goes out to say we gamers are all sickos? He's the sicko!

"The game of this nature is sick and demeaning as well as anyone who plays the game. Yes, this is free speech without respect and dignity to those involved."

Another fucking idiot claiming gamers are sickos.... Rinse and repeat...

"It's part of free speech however as others have posted -we should make every effort to ridicule and marginalize the developers, sellers and users of these products."

Yet another idiot proponent of anti-gamer stereotypes... This sick shit SHOULD not be happening after a Terrorist Attack. NO GAMERS caused this terrorist attack but these people are acting like it's our fault...

"This is preying upon young innocent lives for what purpose? When trash goes in...trash comes out. And this sickness n violence is being drummed into these young lives and everyones lives 24/7 from the "Entertainment" industry."

Another complete idiot calling violent games "Trash"..... And putting "Entertainment" in quotes like the Violent games are more than entertainment, like training simulators for terrorists maybe....

"Warped minds that create these games brainwash the minds of those who "enjoy" playing these games. The Lanza boy played violent videogames and then acted them out. The parents of Newtown should be suing the manufacturer of the games that enthralled this mass murderer. Hitting these lowlives in the pocketbook will send a clear message that these violent brainwashing games' creators will be held financially responsible for the disturbing results of their depravity."

Another fucking idiot trying to link Sandy Hook to Violent games when there is NO proof he "Acted them out"... This claim is just made up because there is NO game sold by the Industry where you go around killing kindegardeners.... If there is it isn't the industries fault that 1 out of 1000's of games is sick like this.... He certainly wasn't acting out "Call of Dury" or "Mass Effect" when he committed the massacre. The mere claim that he was is just BS by an anti-gamer.
The anti-gamer shithead then goes on to saying that we need "to hit this lowlifes in the pocketbook" and calls violent games "brainwashing" when they aren't... REAL brainwashing is done to people like this by religious zealots. This idiot is probably ALREADY brainwashed at a "treatment" center they all use to force people to by zealots that uses Military Discipline to make people zealots... He calls for a lawsuit of violent games makers after Newtown when they weren't even responsible. Only an idiot would blindly believe such tripe. Idiot doesn't begin to describe this moron. These kinds of people should be locked up...

"Free speech is a cornerstone of our law and our society, but not all "speech" should be protected and these video games are Exhibit A for what needs to be banned to have any chance of having a civil and well-ordered society. Bryan T. Hodges, bryanhodges@comcast.net"

An idiot calling for the complete ban of violent video games. Oh Jee. He even left his email address. I will not personally send him hate mail, but if anyone reads this and decides to hate mail him, I will definitely not say you shouldn't. He's an idiot. And it's HIS fault he left his email in the comment. He's asking for it...

"What's disgusting is that some 'adults' play these games with their children.
Of course something should be done, but if they are put on a ,only adults could buy them, Some adult or parent will buy them for kids.
What we have a problem with is too many liberal thoughts in the country today."

Another moron implying violent games should not even be sold to "adults" (like were not adults but SCHOOL SHOOTERS/TERRORISTS/CHILD MOLESTERS/SATANISTS/any other stupid stereotype we gamers have been called), because "adults" sometimes play "these" violent games with their kids, so now because of that "adults" should not be able to buy these games, and because of this "too many liberal thoughts" are the problem... This moron is clearly a wackjob!!!

"Or better yet, why do people in our society pay money to partake in depraved violence as entertainment?

People who support censorship are not understanding the root problem. If people didn't buy this junk, no one would be making it. No amount of censorship is going to fix the core problem in our society - it's going to take a society that shuns depravity, like we once did."

This idiot is complaining about people "buying this junk" (where junk is violent games AGAIN), and claims that that is the problem and we need to stop this "Depravity". Like adults buying "Uber violent" games like Call of Duty, Mass Effect, Doom, Hexen, Jedi Knight and other "SUPER Violent Killing games" which the media keeps on scapegoating as the cause of Newtown is depravity now? None of those gamers are "uber violent". But the media keeps on quoting features from 1 or 2 super violent games like Postal 1-3 and GTA and keeps on saying "most games" are like this so you get idiots like this who think that they are....

"This is pornography with violence being the subject matter. Stop this type of violence. Young minds do not know how to assimilate this mayhem. It is being shown as popular, when it is not. This trash media thrives on the destruction of societal values. Please stop them NOW!"

Another idiot calling violent games "trash" AGAIN... Asking this "TRASH" to be stopped and (assumingly) their Creators as well because this person FAILS to even mention WHO should be stopped. Another brainwashed fucking idiot.

"It is called indoctrination to blunt the young so that they will be numb when they see death or are apart of it. It is going on in the radical jihad nations. If these video games are not stopped we are going to see more school and other place killings.Indoctrination is not free speech it is like stoking a fire and hoping it won't burn but it does."

Ok... So violent games are indoctrination now... Do they make gamers "DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY FUCKING MAGGOT <insert racial slur here> FUCKNUT"... No. Do they sleep deprive people.. Not in normal circumstances... Do they wake you up at 4 am every day after being put to bed at 2 am. No... Do they take the players completely out of their normal life 100% of the time so all they can do is be indoctrinated. NO... Do they do ANYTHING REAL INDOCTRINATION like in Military training camps do.. NO. Because they can't.. Violent games can't train anyone.. That requires. 1) Abuse 2) Intimidation 3) Indocrination 4) Removal from normal life and complete
isolation from it. 5) Constant drills, sleep depravation and exhaustion. Games do NONE of this. Who ever is comparing Indoctrination to games has probably been brainwashed to do so and is another fucking brainwashed asshole.

"Violence in the media is what is desensitizing our culture. Hollywood and msm don't want to take any responsibility for what they market as entertainment - violence for violence sake- they line their pockets at the expense of our youth. They stand by abortion Dr.s as "choice" yet save the baby whales.... They assuage their guilt by "social activism" that suits their self aggrandizing persona"

Even though I proved at the beginning of this article the Industry doesn't sell to kids, this idiot goes on and claims violent games are "desensitizing our culture" to violence I assume, but fails to even what they are desensitizing the culture to, Blames hollywood, claims they are making money off of kids, blah, blah, blah, Fuck you! They claim Hollywood supports abortion, so therefore so must gamers and game companies now! Right? Right? Isn't this what this fucking shithole is implying. So now abortion is something gamers and game companies support... We're all a bunch of fucking toddler torturing baby killers!!!! OH NOES!!!! No proof whatsoever for such an allegation of pure bullshit is there? Nope. NOT ONE SHRED....

"Free speech is only free when it is harmless. You can not do something without consequences if you hurt someone. These type of things, video games, videos etc, that are promoting violence like this one should not be permitted. These things are giving bad ideas to others to be copy cats and the promotion is giving the wrong message like if it is OK to do those kind of things to others. GOD HELP US. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO WILLING TO DO OTHERS HARM, AND THEN PROMOTE IT AS HARMLESS TOO. SICK."

Another bullshit claim by an idiot... Saying free speech should not apply if something is called "non harmless" (probably by an idiot because only idiots call violent games harmful...) He then claims violent games cause "copy cat" murders and more BS.... What an idiot.. But he's nothing compared to the next moronic turd...

"We cannot afford any more legislation that takes away liberties. People need to step up and make these gamers stop the gore by protest and boycot. Maybe their backgrounds need to be checked to make sure they are not themselves terrorists."

Ok... So were school shooters (us gamers that is), child molesters, and worse... But this idiot dares to claim that "gamers" are "terrorists" now... One step away from blaming "Gamers" for the Bombings in boston no doubt... I quote: "Maybe their backgrounds need to be checked to make sure they are not themselves terrorists.". Does this idiot REALLY believe gamers are terrorists? Apparently so. So now we, game manufacturers and Terorrists (we are all of the above now) need to be "Boycotted". What a fucking moron. Anyone who DARES to equate "Gamers" to "Terrorists" is a fucking idiot... Nothing more to say... Just hope this doesn't spread to more morons who believe everything they hear like 99% of the dumbfuck population of this Country after a Terrorist attack done by NON GAMERS.

"There needs to be a better online system to monitor not only those who created this offensive video game, but also those monsters involved in child porn, drug distribution, etc. We need to prosecute those who are inhumane. "

Another moron doing the following A) Saying game manufacturers should be monitored like Child Porn creators. B) Implying Child porn is caused by violent gamers like that boykin moron I attacked earlier in the year... What an Idiot...

"These DAMAGED people who put this TRASH out for everyone to see are just as DAMAGED as these two terrorists. Three PD's who gets three public defenders,stop wasting taxpayers money and put him out of his misery...."

Whoops. Not two sentences later and someone else DARES to blame the Terrorist attacks in Boston on VIOLENT GAMES! What a fucking moron... And also calls for the execution of whoever "him" is... Could be anyone...

"Personally....I think the game makers should be added to the terrorist watch list."

Another moron calling game makers "terrorists" DARING to claim we should be put on a "Terrorist" watch list for WHAT? We didn't do the fucking bombing. 2 RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS from the middle east did. WTF? How are we "terrorists". These fucking turds can't give a straight answer can they?

"I take it they are making money on it .. a class action lawsuit by the victims would be good .. .hit them in the pocketbook .. make them defend their sick game."

Another moron daring to claim that Parents should file a class action lawsuit against the makers of this "sick game", not even stating what "sick game" it is!!!! It could be any fucking game this moron finds "sick".... Any!!! Any!!! Another Litigational loser..

Out of 144 stupid comments attacking violent games, only 3 tried to link them to the Boston Bombings, but about 17 more spread bullshit about Gamers, Gaming Companies, and Violent games.. Complete bullshit like this fuels censorship... It's disgusting.. But what is even more disgusting, is we have "Lowlifes" so paranoid that they must find a scapegoat for a TERRORIST ACT that has a Suspect in Custody with Charges filed against him, but that isn't good enough for them.. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! It's the violent gamer child molesting Satanic Toaster Terrorists!!!" (Gamers).... It's our fault... More bullshit from assholes on the internet. People should NOT BE SCAPEGOATGING games AND Gamers for something they did not do. WE are NOT terrorists, we should NOT be put on "Terror" watch lists... It's all bullshit...

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So I thought this Moral Panic on violent entertainment causing Sandy Hook was done. Apparently not... Lo and Behold, Senator Grassley, a Repooplican from Iowa starts ranting on how the Gaming Industry's Voluntary Rating system isn't good enough, how it "lets these violent games get to kids". What violent games are these, "ones that glorify killing of innocent people". Sure... I quote:

"There are too many video games that celebrate the mass killing of innocent people — games that despite attempts at industry self-regulation find their way into the hands of children,"

Talk about a moronic claim.... Number 1, the "attempts at industry self-regulation" (like they are a complete failure, despite the FTC study that says that the ESRB ratings are better than the MPAA ones, enforcement wise), have nothing to do with why these "violent games that glorify the mass killing of innocents" fall into the hands of children. Number 1, the Industry itself isn't to blame if the Stores refuse to card the people buying the games, or the 2/3's of parents who refuse to read the ESRB ratings in the first place, right? Apparently to this moron, the parents aren't to blame and somehow the industry made the parents not read the ratings or the stores are being all run by the industry and purposely start selling GTA games to kids.... This whole claim is bunk, and he knows NOTHING about violent games, the industry or the "attempts at industry self-regulation". He just blindly believes all the nonsense being spread that violent games are marketed to kids because "oh noes, the kids can buy games..." BLAH BLAH BLAH

To make things worse his claim of how their are too many games that "celebrate the mass killing of innocent people" is a bogus claim too. I regularly debunk crap like this. It's just a blanket statement, used to demean the industry based on shitty games, ones that do allow the "mass killing of innocent people", which are few and far between. Using a list of all released FPS games on wikipedia, I calculated that the sheer lack of "uber violent games" is astounding, despite what scaremongering is being said by people like Grassley.

This list spans all the way back to the 1970's with Sega titles such as "Jet Rocket", long before the dawn of PC gaming, so it does count everything.... No picking and choosing, no editing of the total data to show a point, pure unadulterated Facts.... Something anti-gamers almost never provide, it's almost always rhetoric, false data, or misinterpretation.

When You look at the spreadsheet, look at the column "gms kill inno". This is how many games out of 650 allow you to kill "innocent civilians", where innocent civilians are defined as characters who can't fight back. I have 2 rows, one with all 650 games in the FPS category, and another with all FPS games + Postal + all GTA games. That one is the second row, the lower one with 658 total games. The top row with 650 games is just FPS games. "gms rwd inno" is how many games that reward killing of innocent people. "gms nrwd ino" are games that punish killing innocent civilian characters. Look at the % with and without GTA and Postal applied, tiny %, less than 10 in each case... There have only been 19 FPS games EVER released that allow the killing of innocent characters. Only 4 of these reward it. Tiny numbers when you factor in the 650 total FPS games ever made. 8 Punish the killing of innocents. IF you count in GTA games and Postal 1 you get 27 total games in this list that allow the player to kill innocent characters, and only 8 reward it. 15 Punish the killing of innocents!!! You see a pattern, equal amount of FPS games punish the killing of innocents, and in the case when you add in GTA, more punish than reward. Apparently Grassley can't stand the fact that there are 8 games since 1970(!) (when the list started) that reward killing innocents. But he mentioned mass slaughter of innocents!!!

Grassley's complaint about "too many games that celebrate the mass killing of the innocent" is a nonsense claim. Because this suggests that there are games where you are rewarded for mowing down big rooms of innocent civilians in such a game. Here's the thing. No ESRB Game like this Exists! In any game with civilians, that reward it, it's never been huge numbers killed at once. People might say "GTA!" but GTA, despite the nonsense claim about it, does NOT reward the killing of innocent civilians. It punishes it. You get the police after you for doing stuff like this, get arrested, etc... That's punishment, not rewarding. The last game to reward mass killing of innocents, the only one was before the ESRB, so the esrb has nothing to do with it, that was Carmageddon! In 1997! The only game I know where it :"rewards" the mass killing of innocents..... Under the ESRB, the "voluntary rating system" there have been 0 games that "glorify the mass killing of innocents!!!". NONE! Zip! Zero!! Zilch!!! Grassley is a liar... Surprise!!

So Grassley is making up crap, just like a lot of morons who attack games do. It's stupid. It has to stop. He is also hinting at regulation of the industry by the government and using biased claims and utter lies to support it??? I thought this country was beyond it. IF they do decide to regulate the games like this, what's to stop them from setting up a system where they purposely rate any game that is only slightly violent or above, to their equivalent of Adult Only, so the stores won't sell them.. Hmmm... Because thats what I think people like this want, just to get rid of all the violent games so no one can buy them, no adults can too, no gaming companies can sell them so the industry just goes out of business. These people shouldn't be in office if they use nonsense like this to fuel censorship, and make no difference it is. The gaming industry does not need to be regulated!! Just the Congress!!! Seriously...

FU

Incidentally, the Denverpost article I mentioned in my last post, wasn't something I first read when I found it. It was the first article I read in the group way back in 1999. This was way before I became a Pro-Debunking-Nonsense Blogger and was a member of the Doom Community on Doom Central the big doom fan site then. I was hearing every single claim every news paper was making about Doom after the School shooting and how bogus a lot were, like Doom had "Pipebombs" (Harris made several), Doom "allowed people to kill kids", and how Harris and klebold were playing "Doom in God Mode" when they committed the Massacre in 99. I then read the Denverpost article and got immediately disgusted because I knew how false the other articles were, I was convinced this was false too, I couldn't prove it though..

So I signed up to their "your voice" forum and made a big complaint on the columbine massacre section saying basically "Doom is being scapegoated by the media, and I can't stand it, they are making utter BS to demonize it, nor can I stand how people in schools are being put in detention for merely Playing Doom, It did not cause Columbine!". However what would transpire next, would reveal to me how idiotic the populace of this small forum in Colorado were. It became apparent that these people on the forum Blindly beleived that Doom caused Columbine. I was insulted and attacked by an Anonymous Internet troll for 3 months along with 5-6 other gamers all trying to defend the game on the forum. This troll worked by a very specific and obnoxious formula. He would single out posts he didn't like and quoted them sentence by sentence replying to each quoted sentence with insults, death threats, constant curses and sexual innuendo, and worse... This kept on happening for hours each day from may to august 1999. The person threatened to "Crack my Skull Open" for merely Stating that "kids being killed should not lead to the rights of adults to buy and play violent games". This was a rude response to the quote said by the troll "All of you value your video games over the lives of the victims". But since the troll called us "Gamer Shitheads" this response of mine was necessary, because this person was insulting any gamers right and left on the forum. And when he called all of us "Gamer Shitheads" he personally insulted me too. The troll also told me to:

"Crawl up your mothers fly infested Cunt", "your mother should have aborted you with a coat hangar!!!" and much worse... The moderator of the forum did nothing. Didn't even care. Fucking asshole! The only post that was deleted was the trolls last one, which I will get into later. The fact I was being insulted, threatened, meant nothing to these fucking idiots on the forum and the newspaper. They didn't care. To them we were all like Eric Harris or worse...

By this point the death threats and worse made me want to get revenge. And that's what I did. I got the Doom Community I was in to fight for me on their forum. We were gonna make that forum go insane for 3 months. I got my best friend from High School, a guy I will only call "Hitman213". to sign up to fight as well. He came first and said that video games do not cause real violence, and something similar. Soon the troll demanded he change to his real name because the name "Hitman213" offended the memories of the victims. So he went back to his real name and mercilessly fought this troll but it took 3 months to get this fucking moron to shut up. Soon a whole bunch of idiotic posters from the forum kept attacking us for "not saying our respects". To them merely defending Doom was saying "Rachel Scott deserved to Die!" or something equally heinous. When A Guy named Gokuma from the Doom Central or Doom Nation Forums immediately followed Hitman213 in claiming "Video games don't cause violence, it's BS". But the Troll immediately said "WTF! You're all the same person with different accounts! You are the same person as Hitman213!!" It's like this person believed there were no gamers outside Hitman213 and me and we were all signing up with different accounts to defend doom. It was hilarious then and in a way it still is, but the person was clearly a complete paranoid wackjob..

They were literally zealots who believed everything they heard at face value, including the "Hack Psychologists Claims". The troll cited these claims. Then one of the Doom Forum guys "Gokuma" stated that psychologists are Charlatans and that Psychiatrists are a lot more credible. This did not debunk the claim though so the troll said "That's nonsense you Gamer Shitheads are trying to pan to defend your game!!!"

Right around then another Doom Forum Guy formed a new Account "Dr. Mingels", and said "Video Games actually have positive effects on kids". Immediately people made fun of him and called him "Dr. Mengelle" (Like in the Nazi War Criminal Sicko Butcherer). These people were likening Gamers to Fucking Nazi butchers? WTF! The Whole forum laughed at this. Seriously...

We had a total of 6 guys on the forum, who weren't assholes, Me (who had backed out due to emotional damage, not kidding), Hitman213, Gokuma, the guy that posted as "Dr. Mingels" who kept on trying to reason, uselessly with the idiots, Lets just call him Dan. With us we had a video gamer from the Forum "Mostly Harmless", and another guy in the Doom Community. Versus us were the troll, his actress friend, and some other posters. One was always there but was on the First Troll's side and actually "filled in for him" when he was gone. One showed up later complaining on how all gamers on the forum were idiots and we spent "all day twittling with our joysticks", insulting us more. The thing kept on going on. At One Point the Troll said "all the violence in the articles on DPO (showing off the massacre) is proof violent games were involved". The troll then said "you all made fun of the columbine shooting victims", blah blah blah, for defending doom. Then the final post by the troll went up "I have enough evidence to prove gamers get violent", or something quite "lawyerly" like that. Around then my friend is like "we need to know who this idiot is!" and started telling me about reverse email lookups. We decided to try a few. None told us any personal info. The troll then eventually shut up and disappeared, 6 months after it began.

But that last post was deleted no more than 5 minutes after it was posted. I found that very suspicious. It sounded like the person was a lawyer gathering evidence against gamers. The troll did have a lawyers email address, justicemail.com, "email for the law community". Some lawyer looking for clients did post on the forum. Forget his name. Could they be the same person? I don't know. For years I tried 100's of different reverse email lookups. None of the returned any results. In 2006 however, I found a similar poster on Gamepolitics.com, a moronic anti-video games activist attacking gamers, calling them "druggies". This person was more like the person who said "All gamers twittle with their joysticks all long" then the initial "lawyer" troll on the forum back in 1999. But this whole experience of the idiocy surrounding the school Massacre on the Forums and in Colorado is what inspired me to write blog posts debunking nonsense spread about violent games. The troll cited 2 nonsense claims, the "video games break down the inhibition to kill" one and the "Doom Will become Reality" one. I debunked both on my Debunking Other Nonsense blog, which debunked many many claims since 2011 almost on a daily basis. The whole stereotype of "Gamers" being violent psychos pisses me off, and so do all the bogus "Death Threat" claims anti-violent games activists keep saying (how gamers keep threatening their lives), because pro-video game violence trolls do the same thing. The nonsense this troll was saying, threatening to kill me, crack my skull open, threatening to "kick gokuma's ass" and more is proof. I really don't like looking back at this. We were ALL assholes on this forum. I'm not really proud of it. The kind of people who were attacking Games in colorado were like this, apparently. These people refused to believe anything but the "trustworthy" sources that made up crap. We were all being insulted for merely being Video Game players, by almost everyone on the forum for months on end. Being Compared to Nazi Butcherer? It doesn't get any lower than that.

FU

Checking Gamepolitics today I learned the truth about Obama's Violent game's conference between the ECA and the Senators, hosted by Joe Biden. According to the ECA, the whole thing didn't go down well and the senators still blindly believe "Video games cause violence". I quote:

"Senators are convinced that there’s a connection between video games and violence. One has even said that a proposed study is simply “laying the groundwork for new regulations on video games.” We know that’s not true - so write to them today.

Yes, even when presented with the facts that violent crimes have decreased since 1980, while video game sales have increased, and that other nations that consume more video games than the United States don’t see the same level of violence, those we talked to pressed forward with the need to legislate video games and waste money to find a connection between games and violence we know doesn’t exist. These Senators believe that playing games leads to real world violence. They have even gone so far to say in private discussions they disagree with the Supreme Court’s decision that video games are free speech.

We’re not going to take these insults and lies. Video games don’t lead to violence and are protected free speech. That’s reality. We need gamers to speak up and tell Congress this.Write to your elected officials and then spread this action everywhere you can.

This year is going to be a rough one. No matter how many facts we present, folks seem to want to stick to their fantasy that we gamers are time bombs waiting to go off. It’s insulting to me, it’s insulting to you, it’s insulting to us and just not true. Take action now.

Keep on gaming,"

This is, Frankly Disgusting... Number 1) None of these senators even care that people don't want video games regulated, As gamers we have to stop this mess NOW. We can do it. We need to mail our Rep's and Our Senators, but their message refuses to show the real issues, the media fabrications, the nonsense, the real reason behind school shootings. The Representatives will assume the default message is just Industry Rhetoric. Why would they listen to it? You must send them a much more detailed message like the one I have put below. One that shows the scapegoating by the media and how violent games have nothing to do with real crime. This is really important. My message is a lot longer than theirs but covers a lot of stuff that very few people know about but is all true and people simply are not talking about it. If people want to use this message, go ahead. Edit it and choose the parts you agree or disagree with if you want, but make sure to tell them that A) Violent media studies never have proven violent crime is a result, and that B) Special interest groups in the CDC Study will try to hijack it with hoaxes, for extremist groups did that before at the Supreme Court, quoting the "Doom will Become Reality Hoax", which was actually not on Harris's real site but a fake site made after Columbine.
This is really important. This could be like the columbine moral panic on "Doom" times 5 if you don't act... Seriously.

Title : "Regulating Violent games solves nothing!"

"As your Constituent, I would like you to know that I am not happy about all the scapegoating happening surrounding violent games by the Government, and if you don't know this already, the scapegoating has been going on for over 10 years (since Paducah!), and it continues without anything to legally stop it.

Most comes from the media who are fueled by right wing extremist groups who are pro censorship such as the The Eagle Forum, the Parents Television Councel and others. For years they have been sending people on to talk shows especially right after school shootings, to make up utter lies about violent games such as the "fact" violent games make kids violent, the "fact" violent games break down the inhibition to kill, and the "fact" that violent games are military training tools. None of these are true.

The truth is that, video games don't make anyone violent, no study has ever been done even linking video games to violence, the aggression studies have been misquoted by people with anti-video game agendas on talk shows as proof they cause violence, without proving which studies they are talking about. One was a guy who was trying to sell a book. The other guy is a Defense Attorney for Murderers who gets them all to say "Video games made me do it" and is trying to get people to believe it, so he can win as much cases as possible. In fact no study has ever linked video games to Violence at all. Why do we need a study to link them now?

The Link between Adam Lanza and the Video game "Call of Duty" was based on 1 UK Tabloid basically saying "This kid lived in the basement (a video gamer stereotype), and had a computer. He had posters of lots of tanks and old fashioned Military Weapons. Since Call of Duty Players can name a lot of old fashioned weapons, he must be a Call of Duty Fan!". This all came from a "plumber" who visited the house. This article doesn't prove he played call of duty, but then 25 newspapers all Quoted this plumbers words as proof he was obsessed with Call of Duty and some even said Call of Duty made him commit the Massacre. See the nonsense the Media Spreads? Millions of people now believe, that Call of Duty caused Sandy Hook. But it's not true.

The same thing Happened after Columbine. Some unknown party made a fake Eric Harris Aol Site with a page that said "The fires will go off in the 21'st, Eric harris Hates you all, Doom will become reality!". This spread around to people and then the media quoted the "Doom will Become Reality" part and immediately everyone thought Doom Triggered the Massacre. Only Problem is that Harris never wrote these words, the site was made on April 21'st. It was proven by he FBI. But no one listened. One News article verifying that it was a fake Aol Site was taken down to cover it up by someone.... The media makes up bogus claims right and left about violent games. FOX News hired a fake hack psychologist to say "Bulletstorm causes rape because Rape is a violent crime, and since Bulletstorm is a violent game, it has caused rape!". Millions Believed this. A preacher recently said at a public function of some sort, that "Pornography releases Endorphins, it's like a cocaine High, the more you view pornography the more you need that high, till Heterosexual Porn doesn't satisfy you anymore, you then jump to Homosexual Porn, then to Bestiality or then to Pedophilia. Look at all the Rapists and Child Molesters who said they were addicted to Porn. These Violent Video games are the same way". He basically said it in a way to make some people think Violent games lead to child molestation. In the Columbine case, the Hoaxed page was used as evidence in the Supreme court case EMA Vs Brown. It was submitted by a Right wing pro-family Group who is anti-violent games. I fear some similar group will use this or other bogus claims (imagine if they use the Child Molestation one.....), in the upcoming CDC study as evidence... This must not happen. It's not true and things like this could lead to Regulation when no evidence of a problem exists...

Legislating violent games will not cause Tragic School Shootings to stop. Doom didn't have anything to even do with Columbine. The CHS Massacre was a revenge crime against the police in Colorado, and according to a freedom of information act request for documents the FBI was keeping secret,
Eric Harris was Raped by the Police in an arrest in 1998. This triggered the revenge crime, Not Doom.

We still don't know why Adam Lanza killed 26 people. Why jump to conclusions till a real investigation gets done?

Thank you for your time and consideration."

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I know a lot of people in the gaming community have already known this... But I have to report it even though it's old, because it's idiotic. Back when CNN and other news outlets all went after violent games when they thought Ryan Lanza was the shooter, they singled out a "like" to facebook's Mass Effect Page that was "supposedly" made by him... And look at all the bullshit that happened on the page it self: Idiocy at it's finest:

Here is another even more fucking ridiculous image of what happened later!!!!

More in the second image later....

The thing is that people like this piss me off. Especially those who jump to a conclusion that later on was REFUTED. Ryan lanza did not kill the "18 5 year olds", and Mass Effect had nothing to do with it. But things get way more sinister... When you realize that these facebook accounts are not even on facebook anymore!!
I was planning this article to give out links to these facebook accounts so that people who wanted to could give these idiots a piece of their mind but apparently they all became little cowards, for none of them are even ON facebook..... I checked for each one of them and couldn't find a single one... If the posts were deleted and then the accounts got deleted later then I understand that but.... To me it sounds more like someone from an extremist right wing pro-censorship group that thinks violent games cause school shootings and that gamers are all psychopaths that are inherently violent, made a bunch of fake facebook accounts
and started posting a bunch of fucking stupid anti-gaming comments to try to screw with Bioware's facebook account in an attempt to get them to go out of business or something along those lines. The first comment even attacks fans of the game, the one by "Mary Hughes Bach" saying "you must be proud of yourself, Sick trash!" after a gamer said "you must be all proud of yourselves" after all this began... Apparently these idiots don't just think the gaming companies are sickos so are all the gamers too! That fucking moron "Mary Hughes Back" immediately and without remorse likened "Willard Santos" who posted the top comment (half-cut off at the top), to Eric Harris and then called him "Sick Trash!". Then you got the morons saying the stupid crap like:

"Congrats... Your game may be now responsible for the death of 18 5 year olds.. Get off
your fat butts and add a disclaimer to these games that say "THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE",
Cha-Ching, It's the money isn't i(t)? Well now real blood has been shed"

This person is Calling gamers "Fat Butts", demanding they put a disclaimer that says "THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE" then accuses the the Gaming companies AND Gamers of Being greedy assholes that must "sell violent games to kids". Apparently to them any one who Liked this game is somehow in the mind of the assholes here, a contributing factor to the school shootings, or even a cause. Then you get the religious nonsense from asshole zealots that "Satan is in control of your minds" Bullshit.

Now to address the fuckers who posted religious anti-gaming shit in the second image:

1) Their all fucking religious assholes who hate violent games AND gamers.
2) 90% of the ones doing attacking against the game don't exist on Facebook anymore.
3) This sounds a lot like an attempt by someone with a bunch of fake names to attack the game...

But some of these are utterly idiotic. I quote: "Burn in Hell", "May he rot in hell" (attacking gamers),
"A Guy who loves this game just shot and killed 25 people based on this game, and we think these games have no effect on people, he KILLED 18 KINDERGARTEN kids in cold blood", and the worst (and must funny..) " 'Anonymous' Take out this page and their website!!!! They are probably Millionaires!!!".

First of all the fucking idiots telling fans of the game on THEIR OWN FUCKING Fan Page to "Burn in Hell" or "Rott in Hell" is ridiculously idiotic. Why are they exposing the fans to this? Bioware didn't actually make the page, they don't run it. They run Bioware.com. Take your protest there, but it seems they wanted to try to attack the gamers who like mass effect instead. Fucking stupid. It's like they think the Gamers are responsible for the shooting, so they want the fans to burn in hell. What paranoid delusional crap is being forced on these people?

Then you get the idiot who said "A Guy who loves this game just shot and killed 25 people based on this game, and we think these games have no effect on people, he KILLED 18 KINDERGARTEN kids in cold blood", which is insanely stupid. Number 1, he was a Suspect, not the conformed killer, but in this persons mind it does not matter, does it? Then the moron says that because the person that the media misidentified as the killer "liked" the mass effect page, the game made him Kill 18 Kindergartners. So the game must have done it, not some psycho who looked just like a psycho in all of the pictures I saw of him. And these people can't see it? Are they that brainwashed and stupid?

The "Antonymous comment" is just plain funny, because Anonymous is anti-censorship, not pro-censorship, pro-insulting gamers, pro-religion. They fought the Westborough Batpist church and hacked their site, some people must be really stupid to think Anonymous gives a Rabid Rats ass about morons like this, these people were so stupid that they confused the facebook fan page with the real site... WTF? Either really computer illiterate or something. Then to insult the gamers. Then you get the comments saying Ryan Lanza Shot up the school because the CNN articles (and others) claimed he was a suspect, and then to attack the game based on a "supposed" like Ryan Lanza had. Which brings me to another point. The "Likes" on a page are all private, so how did the networks even know who liked the page or not? They didn't, it was fabricated just like the Call of Duty angle. But do these morons even care? Hell Now. These scumbags didn't even offer ONE GODDAMNED Apology to Ryan Lanza for this, or for the Mass Effect fans on the page, NOT ONE. They don't even give a flying fuck that they told a bunch of gamers to "Burn In Hell" over a not so proven link to a school shooter that turned out to be FALSE....

I think some religious right wing group organized this though, because I smell a coverup. Almost none of these posters are even on facebook. Why would they all suddenly leave? It sounds like someone decided to set up 100 or so fake accounts to be used in this attack against Bioware then deleted them later.... Sounds a lot like something some familiar midwest pro-family, anti-gaming, anti-gamer group that tried to Hijack the Supeme Court during EMA vs Brown would Do.... More on that later... Either way this is the stupidest thing I have heard in years, a bunch of Trolls on a Game Site on Facebook all religious right zealots insulting gamers and no one is being thrown in jail for this crap. No legal repercussions at ALL. It's ridiculous. At least give them 6 years. They are above the law, they don't have to serve time... It's Stupid..

EDIT - 6/21/2016 : When I did the Facebook Search back in 2012, I swear I couldn't find those posters. They were not on facebook. But apparently they were punished on facebook and didn't show up on the search for facebook accounts then. I searched for them and found them this time... So I can say My angle of it being a religious fanatic group using fake accounts is untrue...

I was going to share their accounts of these losers initially so gamers can give them a piece of their own mind. That being said, Don't do anything stupid and threaten their lives or harass them. Just say they are idiots and such..

Here goes...
(as always - change the DOT to a . - Don't want facebook people tracing this...)

Mary Hughes Bach (quote "sick trash!" - to a gamer)
https://www DOT facebook.com/mary.hughesbach?fref=ts
Becky Lopey Mcdaniel (quote "Congrats... Your game may be now responsible for the death of 18 5 year olds.. Get off your fat butts and add a disclaimer to these games that say "THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE", Cha-Ching, It's the money isn't i(t)? Well now real blood has been shed")
https://www DOT facebook.com/becky.l.mcdaniel.1?fref=ts
Karen Leatha Squires (quote : "Burn in Hell" - to a gamer)
https://www DOT facebook.com/karen.l.squires.1?fref=ts

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Apparently the Obama Admin. is setting up even more (possibly) biased studies to be done by the Centers for Disease Control, to see if there is a link between Gun Violence and Violent Media. The problem I have with it is that to, my knowledge, there has not been a single non-biased study done about the subject, and evidence surrounding the funding of brain-scan studies by the "Center for Successful Parenting", shows that they are nothing but a group trying to force the government and others to try to get rid of violent entertainment, really biased... Read their mission statement with my interpretations in the image below:

The first thing I think about this whole plan that Obama is setting up is that the CDC is hardly an unbiased source, and no matter who does these studies, they still have idiots trying to sway them. In 2010 during the Brown VS EMA Supreme court, an extremist Right wing Pro-family, anti-violent games group sent an Amicus Brief to the court that cited known lies and hoaxes such as the "Doom Will Become reality Hoax" (debunked here), the Claim Eric Carneal got better at firing a real gun just by playing Doom (debunked here), and that the Military uses FPS games to break down the inhibition to kill (debunked here, by someone in the military). There is always someone trying to get their agenda through, and this attempt by this group from the midwest was clearly an attempt to Hijack the Supreme Court with bogus crap to try to make them vote the other way, which would have lead to an effective ban of violent games not just to minors, but to adults too. (Read up on articles I wrote about Brown Vs EMA to understand why).

The CDC are hardly in a qualified position to know what is true and what is faked in the "evidence" department. They handle "infectious diseases" not fact checking about violent games. In fact 99% of the nonsense spread about violent games is fake. There are literally hundreds of news article making up crap about violent games that very few people have looked through them to see that they are false. And after School shootings, especially Columbine, Fabricated Evidence was used to demonize games, in the form of hoaxes including the doom will become reality hoax, but there was a far more sinister hoax in place involving 3 articles, one from Denverpost.com, one from Rocky Mountain News, and another from Times Magazine all claiming Harris customized doom to be used to simulate the Massacre with (with begging students). This version supposedly had features doom could not do at that time, including a second shooter (friendly AI, Impossible to create for Doom mods in 1999). It also supposedly had begging students that scream quotes, but the quotes said varied from article to article, and so did how they begging students said the quote (one said screaming, the other said begging). And it also supposedly had the ability for either student to die when running out of bullets (impossible to program in doom then, no source code to actually do this, it would be needed to do it right), and no other way of doing it as well, no editing program then allowed you to do this, dehacked didn't, editing tools did't, etc. The thing is that each article mentioned some of these but only one mentioned the last, the first printed one, the one from Times Magazine. The next mentions the begging students and the second shooter, and then the third mentions the begging students only. It's like 3 different newspapers all conspired to fake evidence to make doom like it contributed to the shooting, using ideas that would be in a school shooting simulator, as the supposed modified versions features, when the game couldn't have allowed the modder to make such a mod in the first place...

Now it's possible, but only because of the source code (released after columbine), allowed source ports that support extensive scripting languages to code this thing into mods. Back then no source port even had scripting language support. How do I know all of this? I have edited doom since 1994. I am an ACS wiz, I know how to program, I have spend my free time since 1996 learning how to mod the game and make levels for it as well. My Point is that someone will try to slip bogus information to the CDC. Who is there to see through it? Something needs to be done... I just don't know what yet...

If they allow people to persuade them that all of this info I have debunked is true (and there are hundreds of websites saying it is), we would have a situation where special interest groups who are biased against violent games decide the outcome of a study using false data, leading to more legislation... This could be disastrous. If you think they will only use this stuff, then you are wrong. What nonsense will they make up for this? These falsifications are very deceiving, there is very little data to prove that they are engineered, and none of the people looking at them in the CDC are Video game players, who know that the Doom hoax with the three articles can't be true. Who is there to balance this out? No one... That's why it's scary.

All this takes is some false data being brought to the attention of the CDC, something they cannot debunk, and it spirals out of control. Enough false data that is set up to make it look like School Shooters train on violent games or are influenced by them would lead to the CDC saying that there is a link between gun crimes and violent games. Then comes the legislation of morality causing violent games to be in the cross hairs of the groups who aren't satisfied with a mere restriction to adults, they want the industry GONE by any means necessary. So that means bans of violent games to adults as well... Then comes the idiots who think that gamers are the cause of school shootings and they would be targeted next. It's already happening, Leland Yee said some crappy remarks about gamers recently, like we only care about "our lust for violence", and we need to "shut up". This is a nightmare waiting to happen...

Just in case the people who have been shutting down sites (like the second one that proved the doom will become reality hoax was just that, a hoax) that debunk this nonsense here are screenshots proving the debunking still exists once they get shut down:

First the Post on the Design Synthesis blog debunking the claim that the military uses Violent FPS games to break down the inhibition to kill.

Now the image of the supposed "Eric Harris" Aol Site that says "On April 21'st Doom Will Become Reality" (not April 20'th....)

And now a screenshot ofthe site dedicated to all things related to the Columbine Massacre that Debunks this hoax (acolumbinesite.com/ericpage.html):

Just incase the video gets taken down or people want a quick explanation. According to Reports, Micheal Carneal fired 8 individual but quick shots with a semi automatic pistol. He shot 8 students, all in the head or the chest, and People in the extremist right wing groups quoting the nonsense that he learned this from Doom are idiots, for Doom has the thing where you fire the guns in the game, holding down the fire button makes every gun, even a single fire gun like a shotgun fire multiple shots as the fire button on the mouse is held down... This is how doom "trains" fans to react..... (Trains is a bad word, but just go with me on this one)...

Carneal did not do this, because it said he brought 2 rifles, a shotgun, and a semiautomatic pistol into the school. None of those weapons are Full Auto the kind needed to replicate the way doom makes it so when you hold down the fire button more shots keep on firing. Semi automatic merely means that the clip for the gun holds more than one shot and the weapon can fire multiple shots before reloading... Nothing to do with this behavior, that only a full auto weapon can do, like a military grade assault rifle. Also Doom cannot simulate recoil, which all weapons had, so if he tried the "methods" doom "train" you to do in real life he would be aiming at the wrong place and would miss over and over again in the best case, or the gun would spiral out of control at the worst case, depending if he used a pistol (best case) or a full auto rifle (worst case).

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Recently, I have been re watching by Video Game Violence BS video's, that I did back last year in the summer to debunk nonsense spread about violent games I have heard over the year. A lot of points I brought up were unique in that Me and my blogging of them have been the only people online to discuss them. So I decided to do a post with links to these videos, in light of the scapegoating that is going on right now because of the Sandy Hook School Shooting the media is scapegoating the Industry for causing and worse... (Child Molestation? WTF!?), yes violent games have been linked to that now, seriously...

A lot of points are brought up, including debunking the following myths:

-Video games cause real life violence
-Video games are used to break down the inhibition to kill in the Military
-Video games train school shooters
-School shooters became better shooters because of Doom (WTF!)

Also a lot of fake nonsense spread about the Columbine massacre by the media are brought up and debunked such as:

- Eric Harris said "On april 20'th, Doom will become reality" on his webpage
- Eric Harris modified to train the massacre with begging students, infinite ammo/weapons, a second shooter programmed in.

A lot about EMA vs Brown is brought up about how nonsense above was used in Amicus Brief by a right wing pro-censorship, pro-family, anti-freedom group from the midwest, in an attempt to Hijack the Supreme court in the Ema Vs Brown decision with Bogus info.

Anyway, here are the videos, enjoy...

Brand New:

Video Game Violence BS II: Part 1

Sandy Hook Nonsense:

I: Adam Lanza did not play Violent Games

II: Violent Gaming Companies and the players of such games being "Child Molestors"

III: The Rediculous Missouri Tax on Buying, Playing, Using, And Storing Violent games.

Recorded last year:

Part I: Video Game Myths debunked...

Part II: Faked News Articles after Columbine and their Debunking

Part III: Panic over Video Game Ads and the "fact" that violent games are marketed to kids Debunked.

Part IV: Religious Right wing groups and their attempt to Hijack the Supreme Court during EMA vs Brown

Part V: My personal experiences with anti-violence-in games trolls and the "Tornado of Bullshit" that fuels censorship

Part VI: New Nonsense about violent games debunked from a new attack site I found...

No More Anti Video Game BS

Sunday, September 22, 2013

UK Deputy Prime Minister Stereotypes Gamers as "hermetically sealed".

Saturday, September 21, 2013

The Anti-gamers are using fake names to spread their BS Nonsense online...

Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Faux News is at it again! (More Anti-Gaming Trash!!)

Monday, August 5, 2013

Adam Lanza's "Deranged Gamer Scoresheet" A Hoax used to Scapegoat Gamers as Murderers

Saturday, August 3, 2013

Massachussets Apparently trying to Ban Violent Games, to adults as well.....

Thursday, April 25, 2013

Idiots online DARE to blame the Boston Bombing on VIOLENT GAMES!!!! And threaten to put gamers on terror list..

Friday, February 1, 2013

Another Pro-Censorship Moron spews Nonsense About Violent Games.... UGH....

Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Gamers are Violent Sickos? DPO Pro-Censorship Trolls are violent sickos too!!!!

Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Gamers! Mail your Rep's about the video game nonsense. They are trying to regulate them again...

Sunday, January 27, 2013

Facebook Mass Effect page gets trolled by Religious Right Gamer Hating Shitholes!!!!

Saturday, January 26, 2013

Obama's plan to study video game violence ready to be Hijacked just like the EMA vs Brown Decion could have been...

Friday, January 25, 2013

Video Game BS Youtube video Blog Series...

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